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Very interesting!

It reminds of how many countries regulate mineral rights: You apply for a tenement or claim and this gives you the right to search for minerals. After a few years, you have to either give back some of the claims or continue to spend money on the claim. This way, no large company can have all the claims.

It also means that if you find something via the use of your labour and capital, you can keep a certain area (that usually turns into a mining concession), so that you can earn the fruits of your labour.

I think your proposed model is something similar. 👍🏻

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Great read man, thanks for this. Let's see...

If you want to be in the system and support it, land is expensive. If you do not wish to support it and live outside the cities, it's pretty cheap. It's just that noone wants to do that. And so there is a price if you want what everyone wants, downtown NY or whatever. In every country I can think of there is cheap land ready to be developed if one is willing to move and live outside the mainstream. Decentralised communities in the Chaco for example. Land there is $2k/hectar.

I think people still keep the fruits of their labour if they a) work for themselves and b) pay 0%. The bully is the government with the taxes and obviously the corporation that you gave your life and labour fruits to. So I think even if we had the land tax economy, as long as a person is willing to give his creativity and work to someone else that exploits him (big corps), we'd have a similar problem.

"Capital is really just a subsection of labour, that is used to aid it, so I am going to eliminate it from the equation, and hide it inside labour." --- I think this is too simplistic! The book was written in 1909, back then land and capital had a different meaning. Today, land is increasingly also in cyberspace for example. Land on the platform - by scrolling you're doing labour for free, creating datasets for the owner of the platform who owns that cyber land. Yanis Varoufakis speaks of this. Cyberland is eating the production share of the physical land which is not in the equation. Secondly, capital changed a lot since 1909 - money printing. ROI on capital is much higher than ROI on labour, especially since the rise of internet. So just the land tax theory isn't enough, we'd need to fix the money.

"Look at the Mauri from New Zealand, all the Africans and the aboriginals across the Americas. All had no concept of private land ownership before, it was collectively owned, the natural bounty provided to us was to be shared."--- well, it was not collectively owned. It was owned by the most brutal agressor group of people in that area. And within that, the leader of the pack to decide what to do with it. And secondly, they didn't care about owning it because they'd exploit the area for resources (food) and then move on. So there was no need to own it.

"Simple, the field is rented to whoever is the highest bidder." --- obviously here you need to explain in more detail how this works, it's too simplistic. I will not start something, invest, if someone can just outbid me one year later. Not possible to plan long-term which is the bedrock of everything meaningful. How do you solve that?

"People “earn” their entire living from buying up plots of land, renting them out for 10 years, or even worse, just holding them vacant, and then selling after the value has risen. They’re capturing most of the gains from the increase in productivity of humanity, without actually doing any of the work to produce this." ---

a) someone buying the land means someone wanted to sell it. The seller got exit liquidity that he needed/wanted at the time, more than the land. The buyer got rewarded for his 10 years of waiting. It's like saying traders or professional poker players have no value - they do, in providing liquidity when there's noone else to do it. To me it's the same with the land holding.

Also, in real terms, gains aren't big for the landowner in theory, because they can't be, in brief simplistic way:

real (inflation-adjusted) land and house prices cannot outrun real income growth indefinitely, because eventually the cost of shelter would swallow all of household income. If growth compounds, 1 % real doubles the price in ~70 years—roughly two generations. Households can still cope with that pace because real wages also tend to grow (and because older owners trade down or bequeath). In the long run, land rent is ultimately limited by the surplus left after paying for labor and capital. If land keeps grabbing a bigger slice, people leave, birth rates collapse, or political pressure builds until prices correct.

"Furthermore, this would also immediately eliminate the housing crisis. This speculation pushes up housing costs to far greater heights than what they really should be as it restricts available supply of land. All unused or inefficiently used plots of land which land speculators have been hogging in highly sought after locations would be freed up so that more housing can be built. The land market would be freed up to competition rather than held back so you can be extorted."---

The housing crisis doesn't come from expensive land but government interventions like not issuing permits, forcing special types of buildings, killing construction company competition, etc. So the land tax doesn't fix that, just scrubbing the gov does.

"All that would remain in it’s place, would be 1 organization to assess land values, and collect the rental income associated with each piece of land." -- why would you need that organization to assess land values???

"For instance, why, as a British Citizen, should I be entitled to receive the income from all the land controlled by the British Empire? When I spend most of my time outside of England, in Paraguay. why shouldn’t I be entitled to receive some of the Land tax generated in Paraguay when I’m spending most of my time there, and paying my share of the Land taxes generated in Paraguay?" ---

Well, a) if you're getting your share in the UK and not in Paraguay it balances out in general, you don't need to change it. And b) you should get the UK citizen dividend because you are British, i.e. representing the country and your values/culture by being who you are, wherever you go. Now, if someone has two passports, that's also fine, as long as the countries are giving out passports only to people who become integrated into their culture (live there long enough to speak the language well, understand traditions and practice them, etc.). That way people could only have like 4 passports max in their life if they really lived 10 years in each country.

Cheers!

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